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#403998 - 10/30/06 05:57 AM Ketamine
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Please use this thread to discuss Ketamine.

Do not discuss vendors in this thread. Do not even mention them.

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#403999 - 02/12/07 03:19 PM Re: Ketamine
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I've been on a Ketamine infusion program for chronic pain (RSD) reflex sympathetic Dystrophy. Ketamine Hcl or Ketalar work to keep the pain gone for longer than anything the Doctor has ever found. Where can I purchase this???
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#404000 - 03/30/07 05:38 AM Re: Ketamine
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I have no idea about this drug other then I heard it is the date rape drug.
I was reading the DEA's site and found its only a scheduled 3.
Unless I am thinking of another drug, I thought this was one off the shelves and only given in animal procedures???

Please help my confused mind!
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#404002 - 03/31/07 10:18 AM Re: Ketamine
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I've been on a Ketamine infusion program for chronic pain (RSD) reflex sympathetic Dystrophy. Ketamine Hcl or Ketalar work to keep the pain gone for longer than anything the Doctor has ever found. Where can I purchase this???




Last month when I was at the pharmacy picking up my prescriptions there was a guy who was also picking up his. He took it out of the bag to look at it and it was a big white cup looking container with a red lid and some kind of straw thing coming out of the top. It also had an attachment that I am not sure where it went but I am assuming this whole apparatus was to measure the dose and only allowed so much out at a time.

On the prescription lable it said Ketamine HCL. The guy raved about the pain relief he got from it but I didn't really have enough time to get more info about it.
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#404003 - 03/31/07 10:36 AM Re: Ketamine
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It's used as an anesthesia for animals, like dreamtoo said. I have a little story about Ketamine.

I was working in a 24/7 veterinary emergency room back in 2002, the night shift, 8pm-8am.

We didn't leave the doors open like a 7-11 would, but we were open. One night these 3 guys arrive carrying a box. We opened the door thinking there was an animal in the box. Nope, nothing in the box, but they had guns in their pockets. We were held up at gunpoint and they wiped us out of the Ketamine (known as special k on the streets), valium, Torbutrol, Torbugeic, Duragesic patches, syringes, and injectable pentobarbitol which we used to euthanize animals. I can only hope they OD'd on that. They used the box for all their stolen drugs. Oh, and the cash drawer and some of the techs/doctors purses/wallets.

That said, I know my friend has had Ketamine treatments for her RSD, but she had them done in a hospital. Ketamine is schedule III, so you possibly could find it online, but I've never seen it anywhere. Plus after watching the animals "come out" of Ketamine induced anesthesia, I don't think I would ever want to take this unless I absolutely had to.
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#404004 - 04/24/07 01:51 AM Re: Ketamine
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This thread is not to discuss vendors. It is to discuss Ketamine...

Edited by Administrator (04/24/07 09:32 PM)
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#404005 - 04/24/07 09:27 AM Re: Ketamine
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I know ketamine has "legitimate" uses, but as far as "sources", I'm pretty sure that it's looked upon as a "street" drug like heroin, cocaine, & ghb. There are special "date rape" drug laws that make it's possession "highly" illegal.

...hence...it's not something you are going to find on the web...
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#404006 - 04/24/07 10:03 AM Re: Ketamine
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A while back when I did a google search for this drug, I found some interesting journal/diary type posts. These people were taking doses that gave them an actual "out of body" experience. Similar to LSD but much stronger. No awareness of "this world" until they came back. Almost like dying for a little bit. Sounded very scary to me. These people also talked about being addicted but not in the physical sense. Almost like they had been visiting another world and wanted to go back regularly ... they missed it.
They described feeling that they had been transformed into energy with an awareness but no body/nothing physical only energy. I found it incredibly interesting but too scary to try myself.
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#404007 - 04/24/07 09:19 PM Re: Ketamine
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It is not 'highly' illegal, and is widely available on the web.
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#404008 - 04/24/07 09:40 PM Re: Ketamine
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The injectable form can actually be taken orally (diluted with fruit juice), and some UK hospitals give this to outpatients in a dose of around 0.5mg/kg for certain forms of pain. It is said to reduce the need for high opioid dosages.

Don't take any notice of the recreational drug use sites and their 'recommended' doses. They are far too high.
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#404009 - 05/29/07 09:02 PM Re: Ketamine
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It is "highly" illegal. Do a google search for "GHB date rape law"...

If you find [GHB] on the web, you may be set up and expect law enforcement...
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#404010 - 05/29/07 09:23 PM Re: Ketamine
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GHB is highly illegal. Ketamine is not!

Edited by jebus (05/29/07 09:25 PM)
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#404011 - 05/30/07 08:57 PM Re: Ketamine
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Sorry I was reading a different post and responded to this one...but ketamine is schedule III or something but the government thinks it's a real threat to kids (as a club drug) and targets it more so than other drugs.
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#404012 - 05/31/07 07:08 AM Re: Ketamine
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I think ketamine is controlled in all developed countries.
Trying to get it from an IOP seems dangerous. But I know there are some IOPs offering this. Usually 'behind the counter'. The now disfunct Starlite was said to be one of them.
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#404013 - 05/31/07 09:27 AM Re: Ketamine
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Ketamine is readily available in most countries that IOPs operate in. You can have it delivered to your door rather securely/safely in my experience.
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#404014 - 05/31/07 12:49 PM Re: Ketamine
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Quote:

I think ketamine is controlled in all developed countries.
Trying to get it from an IOP seems dangerous. But I know there are some IOPs offering this. Usually 'behind the counter'. The now disfunct Starlite was said to be one of them.



Yes, That is true. Well last time I checked ketamine was unregulated in the phillipines. But that was about a year ago and I read it on a website so it might have changed.
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#633598 - 01/18/08 05:45 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: cleo911]
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where is ketamine sources discussed?
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#633602 - 01/18/08 05:48 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: cleo911]
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where are ketamine sources discussed?
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#633611 - 01/18/08 05:57 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: Cooly]
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 Originally Posted By: Cooly
It is "highly" illegal. Do a google search for "GHB date rape law"...

If you find [GHB] on the web, you may be set up and expect law enforcement...


What is the difference between "Highly Illegal" and Illegal?

These drugs are only illegal if they are obtained illegally, like from an IOP.

When they are prescribed my a Licensed US Pain Management Specialist, it is 100% legal.

Also, if a person is sick enough to require Ketamine or most pain medications for that matter, are going to be out clubbing or raping anyone. They are more likely at home desperately trying to make it through another day.
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#633616 - 01/18/08 06:00 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: shanesinpain]
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A family memeber who recently passed away was plagued with chronic pain. Was given tons of different pain meds, including Ketamine - legally, from the doctor.


edited to add: This FakePlastic person is just trying to stir trouble up. I should have looked before posting.

Edited by RubixCubeTO (01/18/08 06:03 PM)
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#669638 - 03/17/08 11:07 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: RubixCubeTO]
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back in the day i heard (nudge nudge) that it comes in bottles know as licks. Crazy individuals are know to pour the liquid into a ceramic pot (somtimes with a touch of vanilla extract) and cook it down to a crust which is scraped and then sniffed. Go easy at first and sooner or later you sink into a k-hole (shag carpety on both sides) sugar may help you pull out of it. You can barely walk so be careful its a horse tranquillizer and as far as pain goes I don't really know if it is used for that, but good luck leaving your house you should be useless on this, but from what I have heard a tolerance builds quickly. BE CAREFUL
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#669641 - 03/17/08 11:17 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: jl767]
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Go easy at first and sooner or later you sink into a k-hole (shag carpety on both sides)

sounds like some lovely stuff!
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#669642 - 03/17/08 11:23 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: FakePlastic]
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 Originally Posted By: FakePlastic
where are ketamine sources discussed?



It is not on this board as it is illegal and a schedule you could never get. These drugs are not discussed here or

If you continue you could find yourself in trouble here as we are legit chronic pain patients and that is all we discuss. you may be as well but ketamin like oxy is a myth in my opinion on the internet.

Have a good day, just wanting you to know don't ask where to find it !
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#669651 - 03/18/08 12:50 AM Re: Ketamine [Re: rkjones]
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It depends on the country. It's not a CD in the UK, and is in the same Class as most benzodiazepines and zolpidem. Some IOPs do sell it, and it is being prescribed for pain.
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#670020 - 03/18/08 03:10 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: nephro]
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I am not sure about this so don't tear into me, but I heard that Ketamine is used to halt breathing during surgical procedures. A friend of mine crashed his motorcycle and ruptured his spline (maybe other body part?). He swears he woke up while the respirator was connected and freaked out because he was not breathing and could not move. Talk about twilight zone. The doctors brushed him off as being delusional, maybe to cover up a mistake, but he seemed to be telling me the truth. I guess when they open up your chest the hole disrupts the ability of the diaphram to contract/expand and draw/expell air into the lungs. I think Ketamine is used to stop the muscle movement that controls your diaphram and perhaps the rest of your body. By the way that story about the robbing of a 24hour veterinarian/animal hospital is crazy funny and lame at the same time. It's good to hear that no one was hurt
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#670024 - 03/18/08 03:14 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: nephro]
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I am not sure about this so don't tear into me, but I heard that Ketamine is used to halt breathing during surgical procedures. A friend of mine crashed his motorcycle and ruptured his spline (maybe other body part?). He swears he woke up while the respirator was connected and freaked out because he was not breathing and could not move. Talk about twilight zone. The doctors brushed him off as being delusional, maybe to cover up a mistake, but he seemed to be telling me the truth. I guess when they open up your chest the hole disrupts the ability of the diaphram to contract/expand and draw/expell air into the lungs. I think Ketamine is used to stop the muscle movement that controls your diaphram and perhaps the rest of your body. By the way that story about the robbing of a 24hour veterinarian/animal hospital is crazy funny and lame at the same time. It's good to hear that no one was hurt
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#670055 - 03/18/08 03:55 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: jl767]
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I don't know about halting the breathing, but it is certainly used at accident scenes like the one you describe, and for general anaesthesia. I think pancuronium bromide is the usual drug used to paralyse breathing and muscles during operations.

I saw it used once on a person impaled on some railings.
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#670238 - 03/19/08 02:58 AM Re: Ketamine [Re: rkjones]
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 Originally Posted By: rkjones
 Originally Posted By: FakePlastic
where are ketamine sources discussed?



It is not on this board as it is illegal and a schedule you could never get. These drugs are not discussed here.

You could not be more mistaken. It is no more illegal than most drugs and sources may be freely discussed in the 'Who offers it and how much forum.' It is readily available and free to discuss on this board.
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#676530 - 03/30/08 11:12 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: cleo911]
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Ketamine is a schedule 3 drug and is kept on crash carts in hospitals and on ambulances. It is used as an anesthesia/anesthetic in many surgeries. This includes surgeries on children because of it's safety when used properly. It is also 1 of the best long term pain drug I have used despite the negative press from a few abusers. I have used it for pain for a while but I'm back on fentanyl until more studies are finished on K's pain relieving properties. I will tell you that it is easy to get a compound cream with ketamine and 1 or 2 other drugs as compounds are not FDA regulated.
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#676942 - 03/31/08 05:35 PM Re: Ketamine [Re: Cooly]
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 Originally Posted By: Cooly
I know ketamine has "legitimate" uses, but as far as "sources", I'm pretty sure that it's looked upon as a "street" drug like heroin, cocaine, & ghb. There are special "date rape" drug laws that make it's possession "highly" illegal.

...hence...it's not something you are going to find on the web...


Since when has Ketamine been considered a "date rape drug"? I think you are confusing it with GHB.
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