#53170 - 12/30/03 09:39 AM
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zeuzjuz
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#53172 - 12/30/03 02:15 PM
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knak
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I agree with you,Ultracet IS JUNK. It is glorified Tylenol. The reason these docs push it is because of the pharmacutical reps.
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#53174 - 12/30/03 02:51 PM
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yawkaw3
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Yeah, that is really sick...ultracet for a broken rib! I would call the doctor, and speak to the doctor- not a nurse or a PA- and don't take no for answer, there's no reason to accept Ultracet for a broken rib. Worst comes to worst, go to the ER and say you're in excruciating pain- you will meds on the spot and meds to take home.
An alternative would be to say it gave you a seizure...that will scare them away from prescribing Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars). This doc is just lowballing you, I'm certain you will be able to get something stronger if you push it.
-yawkaw
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#53175 - 12/30/03 03:53 PM
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Billyl
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It was not even properly prescribed Ultracet is for only moderate pain. An acute injury like a broken rib doesn't even qualify as moderate, it can be severe when it comes to pain. I would call back and blow off the PA get the doctor on the phone.
My wife and I had recently moved and she had broken a tooth, exposed nerve, when we went to see a new dentist for an emergency he gave her Bextra! I called back and they refused to upgrade her prescription and told her she would have to see her regular doctor for anything stronger. I called an oral surgeon who the dentist had refered us to and I knew him, he brought her in and gave her percocet right on the spot and then a script for 30 until he could get her in 1 week latter. He actually got her in the chair in 5 days and then wrote another 30 for her because she also had 2 wisdom teeth removed. He called the dentist while I was there the 1st time and reamed him. The dentist said he didn't know her and that people actually break their teeth for narcotics! My surgeon told him that was a load of bull and not to ever treat her or any of his referals like that again or he would never refer any of his patient';s back to the dentist. Well we got a call from the dentist he appologized and has been great with extra work my wife has had since, he even gives her Valium because she gets very nervous anytime she is in the chair for a while. My point is I turned this around by talking with the oral surgeon and exposing the lack of compassion the dentist had. We actually like the dentist now but our first meeting I wanted to break his neck and his receptionist's.
Take care. Billylll
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#53176 - 12/30/03 04:25 PM
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CeeBee
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Zeuzjuz, vent all you want you are absolutely right. I had what was supposed to a very minor knee surgery (arthroscopic) which has turned into a nightmare. It was botched, my whole leg was swollen to twice it's size and I had a very large hematoma which took about 6 months to reabsorb, as draining it did not work. Of course I was in alot of pain and discomfort, but after about the third script of hydro, the doc gives me ultracet. Very good he says. Bull----. I still have some laying around and your right it does do "something" for wd's but nothing for pain. I guess tomorrow that is all I will have to take as an expected order did not come through today. 
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#53182 - 12/31/03 01:57 PM
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zeuzjuz
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Of course in the tearing up my shoulder incident, I actually said to the doc (while examining me) - "Doc, you ARE going to give me something STRONG for pain aren't you, cuz this hurts like s*%t" lol  He said sure what works for you. Doctors are usually a little better about the opioid thing when it comes to acute injuries which will only require short-term opioid use...
It's not the short term use that they are attacked for... It's when they put people on long term opioids for chronic conditions, that's what they are all so afraid of. Usually every acute injury I have had, I have been prescribed some sort of opiate - I mean, it's tried and true for 5000+ years, it's all we know that really works. It's the 'standard' so to speak...... It's been a few years since I broke anything too - but if I do, and get prescribed Ultram I am gonna throw it right back in the doc's face. I don't mind asking for opiates by name when it comes to an actual short-term injury. I will demand them.  When it comes to injuries - the doc will not see this as 'drug seeking behaviiour' like he would if you came in with an 'invisible' (to the eye at least) disease like chronic headaches, asking for opiates.... If you scream 'I want percocet!!!!! Dam**t !!! While you are lying there with a bone poking out of your skin, he will understand that it is a cry for real help, unless he is just crazy..... 
Edited by zeuzjuz (12/31/03 01:59 PM)
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#53186 - 01/01/04 12:16 PM
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poco
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Registered: 03/11/02
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Oh my,
All you folks with shoulder injuries.. I understand.
I am now going through a problem.. It happened in August. No cuff tear but shoulder impingement.. My great wonderful Doc put me on bextra and now I'm on dolobid and Nuerontin. My stomach is ripping apart, I will need to go to another Dr just for my stomach damage!
I was told by my Physical Therapist I have a frozen shoulder now.... I cant even begin to tell you how painful it has been in the past month... But relief may come next week I am being sent to a pain clinic.. I will try voodoo at this point!
Oops I do have a point.. Ultracet for a broken rib? That is negligence... My Mom broke one rib and they put her on 20mg oxy BID for 10 weeks with break thru meds too...
Good God slug that PA in the ribs and hand him a tic-tac.. Same thing in my opinion!!!! 
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#53187 - 01/02/04 10:31 PM
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zeuzjuz
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Poco -
The shoulder where I tore the rotator-cuff still gives me problems too - for one thing I get moments of extreme weakness in that one shoulder - like I will just be trying to pick up a glass of water or something light, but that requires shoulder movement to raise it to your lips, and when my shoulder rotates it sometimes screams in pain and gets 'shaky' and weak feeling, like I don't have the strength to pick up the 1 pound object....
Most of the time it is OK though - this injury was coupla years ago. For at least 5-6 months after it, I had problems though. Not pain, really - but discomfort, not being able to sleep on that side of my body (pressure on shoulder), having that one arm feel very weak like it had NO muscle on sporadic occasion - it was weird. The weakness/pain in my shoulder is only VERY sporadic now, but does happen once a month or so.... Still has never felt 'right' - That isn't even what I am doing the consultations for though - I am doing the consults for lumbar spinal problems - and that is a whole different (and long) story - but I was born with a bad spine that is getting worse. That's what I take the pain meds for (although I woulda DEFINITELY needed stronger than Ultracet when I injured the shoulder - and was given something stronger -
I would have been in pain trying to do anything that required use of my arm (which is , well, anything) for weeks without opioids.... With the opioids I was actually using my arm, which was weird- because they are supposed to just kill pain (which they did) - But when I was not taking them, I didn't feel as I had the 'strength' in my arm to lift things, etc - on opiods, not only did it not hurt, but I had strength as well...
Now I know opioids don't provide muscle strength. So I guess it was psycho-somatic in a weird way. Like my body knew how painful it would be to lift something, once my shoulder hit 'that point' so I felt too weak to try it - kind of a mind game??) - Who knows but I do know the opioids are the only reason I was able to go back to work after only 4 days and basically carry on my normal routine while in the healing process. And probably good for my arm because the lack of pain allowed me to 'excercise it' while it healed, which my mind would not have allowed myself to do otherwise.
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#53188 - 11/03/05 03:44 PM
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BadSpeller
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Hi there!
I am rather new here, but I follow this board daily.
Thanks to everyone for all the valuable information that is shared here!
I never did a formal introduction, but plan to soon.
I do have several questions?
If you are prescribed Ultracet from your doctor can you also order Hydro or would this be considered double dipping?
Is Ultracet helpful for Arthritis pain?
Is it junk as I read on past threads?
Anyone have any advice about Ultracet?
Does it have any calming affect or the opposite?
Can it be used when taking Kratom?
Thanks!
Spell
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#53190 - 01/03/07 03:55 PM
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Roddy
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Registered: 12/01/06
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Your right, Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) is worthless, along with ultram. Don't waste your money, people. These drug companies just never give up do they? This drug is a sorry excuse for a pain killer. I laugh when i hear about someone getting an Rx for this garbage. Take Care. RR
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#539647 - 08/09/07 10:05 PM
Re: ultracet-- what is it?
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Hemloch
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Registered: 04/01/05
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I agree with you,Ultracet IS JUNK. It is glorified Tylenol. The reason these docs push it is because of the pharmacutical reps.
Absolute [censored], I had a severly pulled calf muscle when I was getting ready for a bodybuilding show, it bruised up and everything, went to a new doc beacuse I hadn't been to one in years, he gives me Ultram and tells me he dosn;t belive in narcotics and won't perscribe them beacuse they 'mask' the pain uhhhh no [censored] sherlock that's what pain meds are supposed to do mask the pain so you don;'t have to suffer, I left and never went back didn;t even bother to pick up the script. I hope you find a real doc who knows what the hell he is doing and will give something more appropriate.
Edited by Hemloch (08/09/07 10:08 PM)
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#550207 - 08/27/07 10:05 AM
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nephro
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I have taken a rather high dose of Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) orally when I had colitis, and it worked very well. I feel that for some people, the dose needed to give effective pain relief is too high, considering the seizure risk.
Intravenously, the drug was less effective for me than orally.
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#793876 - 10/29/08 03:24 AM
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thumperdog
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Registered: 01/28/07
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Stinks, does absolutely NOTHING for me except leave me constipated! The tylenol is the only active ingredidient in it as far as I am concerned! Ultram, Ultracet....blah, blah, blah.......don't waste your money!
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