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#609275 - 12/04/07 11:44 PM What Can I Take To Get More Energy?
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I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. I sound like a country western song, but it's true. I want to look into meds that will get me going in the morning or in afternoon so I can get things done around the house. I don't know if I want to take something every day, but I'm sure open to suggestions! Right now I take Norco, Soma/carisoprodol, AmbienCR, amitryptiline (low 25mg to sleep), xanax when I need it and Valium which works wonders on sore muscles. I'm pretty sure that's it. I've started keeping a journal of meds and what time I take them. Maybe I should get a bigger notebook and include signs and sypmtpms. Please give me some advice!
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#609278 - 12/05/07 12:09 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Tiades]
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Tiades,
I went to the Provigil.com website & I want to try that med! I doubt any doctor would script it though & a few posters have said it's super expensive. I sounds great though.

I told my doctor just that "I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired"! LOL!!! He told me I was depressed & tried to scrpt me an anti-depressant. I need a "new" approach!

Irish

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#609282 - 12/05/07 01:26 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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 Originally Posted By: IrishRose38
Tiades,

I told my doctor just that "I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired"! LOL!!! Irish


Yes I think you need to put that another way. Unfortunitaly
the saying "I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired"
Is also a motto of some AA groups, and NA groups. So if your doctor has been around a while she's probably heard it used that way. Thats not to say in any means, that the saying reflects on to you in that manor, but it has been said to many doctors before in an unfavorable light.
Maybe if you could word that differently, the doctor's mind wouldn't wonder in the wrong direction. ( of course thats just a guess, but might be worth a try IMO.) good luck on finding the right solution.
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#609292 - 12/05/07 02:19 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Tiades]
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Right now I take Norco, Soma/carisoprodol, AmbienCR, amitryptiline (low 25mg to sleep), xanax when I need it and Valium
and you 'think' that's all? GULP! while I am not questioning your need for all these meds, I can certainly see why you feel sick and tired! are you able to cross any of these meds off your list? they are all downers. are you really wanting to add yet another med to this list, albeit of the 'energizing' type?

coffee and protein for breakfast, lots of water and B-complex or even B-12 shots really help, but require enough self-discipline that I don't follow my own advice. (only the coffee, of course)

I would sure be leery of adding provigil in there. I am sure that if there were any way you could streamline your needs to simply norco and valium, you would have done that by now.

you know the more I read your post, the more I think you are just putting us on...

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#609317 - 12/05/07 05:12 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: scruf]
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very well put scruff!
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#609324 - 12/05/07 05:44 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Strawberry]
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 Originally Posted By: IrishRose38
Tiades,

I told my doctor just that "I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired"! LOL!!! Irish


Yes I think you need to put that another way. Unfortunitaly
the saying "I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired"
Is also a motto of some AA groups, and NA groups. So if your doctor has been around a while she's probably heard it used that way. Thats not to say in any means, that the saying reflects on to you in that manor, but it has been said to many doctors before in an unfavorable light.
Maybe if you could word that differently, the doctor's mind wouldn't wonder in the wrong direction. ( of course thats just a guess, but might be worth a try IMO.) good luck on finding the right solution.


I had no idea! How embarassing! I never suggest medication to him though & he's been my doc for many years. But I have seen him sooo many times & can't get him to take some of my medical problems seriously! I don't take many meds, but do take xanax, & I know all to well the "stigma" attached to this med.

He did order some tests though & documented some other tests to be done in the near future. So I hope to see some diagnosis coming soon! If not, I think I'll have to move on. Thanks so much for your concern!

Irish

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#609325 - 12/05/07 05:49 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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scruf--what brings you to the conclusion that tiades is putting us on? just wondering.
i have talked to tiades outside of here and she is quite normal. just has alot of questions, which is good, the more you know, the beeter care you will get!

but to address the question at hand--- we need meds for energy. any body got any suggestions?

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#609327 - 12/05/07 05:57 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: ROSE22]
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I just wanted to add that with my Fibro, it's more than pain & fatigue. I am so exhausted, that some day's I can't get out of bed. You just can't describe it. It's like your whole body is made of lead. Shoot sometimes I'm to tired to read the board.

It's really terrible. I know a pill isn't the answer, but sometimes I wish I had something to give me a boost.

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#609338 - 12/05/07 06:28 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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Normally,I would say...nutrition and vitamins.Like strovite plus avaiable with a prescription (its strong).However, I'd have to say Kratom RED VEIN THAI.I started using this insence when I was feeling like you described above and 2 teaspones am and 2 pm provide a energizing aroma.I use speciosa.com or, google search and read up..Believe Captain it ell get you out of your chair..good luck you'll be fine
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#609351 - 12/05/07 06:55 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Rescue3000]
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anyone taking hydro long term must also consider that they have become anemic...it is a supposedly "rare" side effect of hydro use, but I am anemic and so is my friend who also takes hydro. Anemia can make you feel very tired indeed. I take multi-vitamins now and that has helped, Although OP, I agree with scruf that your combo of meds would definitely make anyone feel tired and lifeless.
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#609354 - 12/05/07 06:58 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Tiades]
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If you are a female, get your thyroid checked. It is one of the most commonly overlooked female problems and if it is not working properly can wreak havoc on your energy levels among other things. I take B-12 and I can tell if I run out for a week or so.
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#609377 - 12/05/07 07:49 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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 Originally Posted By: IrishRose38
Tiades,
I went to the Provigil.com website & I want to try that med! I doubt any doctor would script it though & a few posters have said it's super expensive. I sounds great though.

I told my doctor just that "I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired"! LOL!!! He told me I was depressed & tried to scrpt me an anti-depressant. I need a "new" approach!

Irish



For some reason all Doctors want to script everyone an "antidepressant" and think that is the solution?????? Like I told my dr., when I went it with anxiety & other issues, "I AM NOT DEPRESSED".....he said, "Oh, but it will help you", I said "Will it calm my nerves within 5 minutes"? He giggled and then FINALLY wrote me what I needed....

It is SO HARD to find a Doctor who doesn't mind giving you what you NEED! Most want to go around all the drugs they know will work and prescribe these "new drugs" that only make matters worse....anyways, sorry, if I got off topic, again, just wanted to express some thoughts.
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#609392 - 12/05/07 08:23 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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Provigil is for narcolepsy. It is an amphetamine, not sure why anyone would just want to "try" it. It is scripted a lot in my area though for people who work third shift at the plants because their bodies never really adjust.
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#609425 - 12/05/07 09:36 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: nico]
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Provigal is NOT an Amphetamine. It's great for help staying awake. I use it for Fibromyalgia.
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#609426 - 12/05/07 09:46 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: sadie9]
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You're right, it s a stimulant I now understand that has less side affects and anxiety than amphetamines and is considered a nice alternative. I guess. Sorry.I made the huge mistake of repeating what I had been told and not double checking it. I meant that I have enough anxiety so who needs amphetamines.so sorry I will

Edited by nico (12/05/07 09:56 AM)
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#609470 - 12/05/07 11:13 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: nico]
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for some reason doctors feel that anti-depressants aren't addictive which means that they are "good" drugs even if they are ineffectual. I have a friend who had to shop around to get klonopin prescribed because he knew what worked for his issue; he is far from a "druggie," jeesh this whole anti-drug feeling among the medical professionals as well as LE is freakin crazy; why even bother developing drugs to combat pain and anxiety? why not suggest the legal drug that people have used for millenia to dull pain and comfort them; I mean booze of course. No prescription needed! Unfortunately, Booze will rot your organs, and if you drive on it you are likely to kill yourself or someone else; then there is that pesky problem of alcohol induced domestic violence, but hey, you can walk in to any corner store and buy as much of it as you like no questions asked (even the, god forbid, children can get it easily since it is so available.)
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#609473 - 12/05/07 11:19 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: tigersmom]
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 Originally Posted By: tigersmom
for some reason doctors feel that anti-depressants aren't addictive which means that they are "good" drugs even if they are ineffectual. I have a friend who had to shop around to get klonopin prescribed because he knew what worked for his issue; he is far from a "druggie," jeesh this whole anti-drug feeling among the medical professionals as well as LE is freakin crazy; why even bother developing drugs to combat pain and anxiety? why not suggest the legal drug that people have used for millenia to dull pain and comfort them; I mean booze of course. No prescription needed! Unfortunately, Booze will rot your organs, and if you drive on it you are likely to kill yourself or someone else; then there is that pesky problem of alcohol induced domestic violence, but hey, you can walk in to any corner store and buy as much of it as you like no questions asked (even the, god forbid, children can get it easily since it is so available.)
My grandfather always said that the reason politicians will never outlaw liquor again is because they like it too much. You're right and also there is the stereotype of females that any physical symptom is psycho-somatic; instead of fixing our bodies they think it's our brain. Like anxiety in the past was just basically passed off as female hysteria. Just because you have low energy doesn't mean you are depressed. No wonder hyperthyroidism is underdiagnosed, half the people who complain probably get handed a Paxil script.
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#609480 - 12/05/07 11:30 AM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: tigersmom]
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Before my brother passed, he was in pain management and his Dr wanted to lower his pain med dosage. He told the Dr "That's alright doc, I can just walk down to the corner and get some booze and get rid of this pain." The Dr looked at him funny and wrote him out his normal amount of meds.
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#609500 - 12/05/07 12:06 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Khilee]
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There is some very good advice given, thanks guys & gals!


Sometimes I think my fatigue is hormone related. I've had some level of general fatigue or malaise since high school. Now that I'm "older" & have Fibro it's debilitating to put it mildly.

But how do you tell your doctor you've been tired your entire adult life! Even when I was in the best shape of my life, I was always fatigued. I had more stamina & was able to force myself to excercise, but still ALWAYS tired.



Edited by IrishRose38 (12/05/07 12:16 PM)

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#609509 - 12/05/07 12:20 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: sadie9]
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 Originally Posted By: sadie9
Provigal is NOT an Amphetamine. It's great for help staying awake. I use it for Fibromyalgia.


sadie,
Does your PCP prescribe Provigal for you? Or a specialist?

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#609512 - 12/05/07 12:23 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: scruf]
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 Originally Posted By: scruf
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Right now I take Norco, Soma/carisoprodol, AmbienCR, amitryptiline (low 25mg to sleep), xanax when I need it and Valium
and you 'think' that's all? GULP! while I am not questioning your need for all these meds, I can certainly see why you feel sick and tired! are you able to cross any of these meds off your list? they are all downers. are you really wanting to add yet another med to this list, albeit of the 'energizing' type?

coffee and protein for breakfast, lots of water and B-complex or even B-12 shots really help, but require enough self-discipline that I don't follow my own advice. (only the coffee, of course)

I would sure be leery of adding provigil in there. I am sure that if there were any way you could streamline your needs to simply norco and valium, you would have done that by now.

you know the more I read your post, the more I think you are just putting us on...


Thanks for the put down scruff and r23k4u.

My feelings are very much hurt for you accusing me of 'putting you on'. I am an honest and sincere person whom you don't even know. How can you judge me when I reach out for help and advice? I'm really upset right now. I though you weren't supposed to pick on people on this site.

Lastly, I'd like to say that I know that AA/NA catch phrase because my mom was in and out of drug/alcohol treatment for quite a few years as I was growing up. She's been clean and sober for over 17 years now, and I am not an addict. I think that skipped me and went to my sister.
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#609528 - 12/05/07 12:50 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Tiades]
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tiades don't sweat the comments; you have gotten mostly friendly and good advice here; let me assure you that most of us don't bite! Anyway, I would get my thyroid tested and get tested for anemia. You might start takng a multivitamin to see if that helps. Personally I take about 10 different drugs a day myself including 2 types of pain meds, 2 antidiabetic drugs, lipitor, etc. So many of us are on multi drugs...

Irish, as far as always having low energy...oh god me too! Always, and I've always had screwed up hormones so maybe my low energy problem is related to that (I have had my thyroid tested and it is fine.)
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#609531 - 12/05/07 12:54 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: tigersmom]
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I might also add, that certain drugs, sleep aids and like, CAN build up in the fatty tissues and may contribute to a constant feeling of drowsiness, so DON'T underestimate what the combination of the specfic drugs that you take is contributing to your tired feeling.
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#609533 - 12/05/07 12:58 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Tiades]
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Tiades,
Don't be upset. It will be fine. I think you have started a really good topic! There is some very good suggestions that I'm going to try.

Be grateful your not a dumb-arse like me! I had NO CLUE that "sick & tired" statment was an AA & NA "thing"! I'm ready to call my doc right now & beg for forgivness for my ignorance! LOL! I'm still dying over that one!

Irish

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#609536 - 12/05/07 01:05 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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Tigersmom,

I've had my thyroid checked more times than I can count!! Mine is fine too. It's time for my gynie check-up (YEAH) \:\( & I'm going to ask about having my hormone levels checked. It couldn't hurt!

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#609538 - 12/05/07 01:09 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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Have you ever seen an endocrynologist (help nephro ). I have a friend who probably wouldn't have her kids without one or much less the energy to care for them.
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#609564 - 12/05/07 02:02 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: IrishRose38]
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 Originally Posted By: IrishRose38
Tigersmom,

I've had my thyroid checked more times than I can count!! Mine is fine too. It's time for my gynie check-up (YEAH) \:\( & I'm going to ask about having my hormone levels checked. It couldn't hurt!


I have my gynie check up tomorrow! I also will have blood work done. I've had gestational diabetes with each pregnancy so my doc likes to keep an eye on me. I'll bring up the thyroid test issue too.

Thanks for those of you that left kind words and good advice!
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#609568 - 12/05/07 02:12 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Tiades]
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Tiades, I have had G/D with all 3 of my girls. My oldest daughter had it too. Khilee
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#609572 - 12/05/07 02:17 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Tiades]
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Hi Tiades.. I too suffer from chronic fatigue .. alot of the medications we take can make us groggy and tired such as pain meds, and as you said you take xanax. Before you try more medication maybe a more natural approach to start would be easier on your body .. For me even when Iam really tired and run down after I exercise I always get a natural burst of energy .. also drinking lots of water helps me feel more refreshed, and eating 4 or 5 small meals full of protein , and fruit throughout the day really helps my energy level up .. also getting enough sleep at night can really make or break me ,, I hope you find what you need to help you and I wish you all the best . take care sincerely Faith
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#609638 - 12/05/07 04:40 PM Re: What Can I Take To Get More Energy? [Re: Faith2005]
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Oooo, I had G/D with my last baby. I haven't had my sugar checked since then. I never thought about that. I'm going to bring that up at my next appt.

Tiades, will you have my gynie check-up for me? LOL!! I really don't like to visit that particular doctor!!

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