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#639407 - 01/28/08 02:00 PM Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments
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Please use this thread to discuss the various OCS's that deliver scripts... this is for services that will deliver the paper script to the patient... or call it into the pharmacy for patient pickup...

Who offers direct scripts?
How does it work?
Are they legal?
Are they legal in some places and not legal in others?
What are the risks?
What are the advantages?


Yes you can post the names of the doctors if you wish.
You can also post the names of the sites you think are operated by the same people and that share the same doctor...

Why?
1. Because direct script services are priced from $100 to almost $300 and some offer refills and others do not. Why pay more to consult with the same doctor? Why would anyone go to abcexpensiveDS.com and pay double to consult with the same doctors you can consult with xyzcheapDS.com?
No reason at all!

The reps with the expensive DS do not like the doctor info posted...

2. We are here to share info and to help each other find the best way to buy meds online legally... and not to cover up for any OCS or doctors.

Important: Please do not tell other members how to post or what not to post. We already have Rules and moderators...

Thank you for your support

The following are just a few of the discussion already taken place:

Ohio - direct scripts?
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/635769/#Post635769

Just lost my DS Refills and ned help...
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/638210/#Post638210

Best DS program today?
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/635468/#Post635468

TN direct script info
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/627144/#Post627144

TX direct scripts
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/635830/#Post635830

With DS, Can You Lose Your Refills?
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/637953/#Post637953

What is going on with some expensive direct scriopt services?
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/640034/#Post640034

The following was found and posted by patient2all and it is very important

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The DEA has been hip to "direct scripts" for some time. Here is an excerpt from the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy November-December 2007 Newsletter

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For its part, DEA aims to keep the boards and other stakeholders abreast of criminal practices as it becomes aware of them. For instance, DEA notes a recent trend in the illegal sale of controlled substance medications over the Internet that often skirts traditional means of detection.

Some illicit Internet operations now offer “Direct Script” programs, in which illegal prescriptions for controlled substances are either faxed to the customer’s local pharmacy or sent directly to the customer to present at a local pharmacy. The Web site’s consultation fee is typically higher, but customers in this scenario can now use insurance to pay for the medications.

(For more on DEA’s activities, see “FDA, DEA Speakers Cite Collaboration with NABP, Boards of Pharmacy as Key to Protection of Public Health” on page 175 of this Newsletter.) Controlled substance medications most frequently sought after by illegal means include hydrocodone combination products, benzodiazepines, and phentermine, DEA states in the notice. DEA urges pharmacies to be vigilant for indications that a controlled substance prescription may have been obtained illegally. The agency advises pharmacy personnel to verify the authenticity of controlled substance prescriptions received via fax or in person bearing the address of a practitioner in another state, written by a practitioner unfamiliar to the pharmacist, or presented by a patient unfamiliar to the pharmacist.

If a prescription is suspected of originating from an illegal Internet operation, DEA requests that the pharmacist contact the DEA office in their local area; contact information is available on the DEA Web
site at http://www.DEAdiversion.usdoj.gov. Alternatively, pharmacists can report suspicious Internet activities directly via the DEA Web site or by calling the DEA drug abuse hot line toll-free at



Just remember that direct script services started to show up last year when many pharmacies were busted and forced to close, when OCS's had no pharmacies and could not find any pharmacies to fill their scripts. So they came up with the idea of sending the script to patients so patients have to worry about that part...

And this come to us from Dr. A. Garcia as posted by DicertConsults: http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/695405/#Post695405
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We received and I am very concerned about the many incorrect statements regarding the legality of Direct Scripts as well as the fact that I am sending out medication. This is totally untrue. According to Florida Law, it is completely legal to write scripts for patients whose medical records I have reviewed if they meet certain guidelines. I would like to post the Florida Prescribing Guidelines attached so that all of these false statements will stop. It really makes me angry to see these postings by people who were denied because of incomplete medical records stating that we are doing things that we are not doing. I do not send medications to anyone because I am not a pharmacy. If I owned a pharmacy and had licenses in every state, then it would be legal for me to do so but this is not the case. I would greatly appreciate it if you could post these. And also could you please help me in re-registering for the free boards. The system appears to think that I am already registered but I am only registered as a VIP member. Furthermore, for all of you that like to gossip about doctors being investigated. The DEA, FDA and all other regulatory agencies MUST Notify a physician that they are being investigated otherwise their actions are deemed illegal. Yes they do often investigate physicians without advising them but none of the results of their investigation can be used. According to my attorney, regulatory agencies do this Pre-investigation to see who should be investigated. In response to the person who posted that you don't remember who prescribes for you. Perhaps you are taking too much medication or you are doctor hopping so much that you cannot keep track of your doctors. No wonder you are worried. Furthermore the DEA like any other regulatory agency has the right to investigate any dr. with a DEA license. This is their job. Your federal taxes go to pay their salary. You should be happy that they are doing their job in protecting the public safety.
Thanks
Angel M. Garcia, M.D.



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#642196 - 02/01/08 01:02 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: Administrator]
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Dear Admin,
I think this is a great topic to post. It helps make everyone aware of the different Direct Script Companies out there are the rates they are charging.
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#643409 - 02/04/08 05:27 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: Administrator]
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 Quote:
Yes you can post the names of the doctors if you wish.i


As reluctant as I'd tend to be to go this route, if I knew the state the Doctor is writing the Rx in, that would be invaluable information.

I think others would tend to agree, IMO.

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#643646 - 02/04/08 12:50 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: patient2all]
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yes. the state the doc is writing in would be valuable. I have only heard florida and puerto rico, thousands of miles away! the closer the state, the less trepidation most of us would have about filling scripts.

also, I've heard that some direct script outfits do not include refills, some do.

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#645652 - 02/07/08 04:18 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: scruf]
tish50 Offline
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Registered: 05/27/05
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I think this is the future of telemedicine, i love direct scripts since I have insurance.
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#645658 - 02/07/08 04:24 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: tish50]
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Come on Debbie, give us the dish...And any other DS reps on the Board!

I would like to know if you give refills on them?...I think taking a new out of state script in Every month is pushing it, but once every couple months, not so bad

Is the Dr. from the pan handle?
Would the same Dr. write out everytime?
Can someone be reached to verify the Script?
Is your Dr, working for other companies or is he/she exclusive to you?

Thanks for taking the time to answer them.

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#645710 - 02/07/08 05:35 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: watcher12]
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Watcher12,
The Prescription is for 90 days.
Yes, either the PA or The Doctor can verify. about 15% of the Prescriptions are verified. This is about the same since we started and I believe is the average in the Industry.
We would need to know which state you are in?
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#648126 - 02/12/08 06:41 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: ConsultsDirect]
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anyone using direct scripts, can you please post your recent experianec and pricing and timeline?

I am trying to do some research here, as prices at the ROPs are going up every month!! It really is getting out of hand now.

Although, I am not sure I would be willing to stress out about handing in an out of state script without googling the Dr myself first!! I don't know. Maybe its best to just pay the prices at the regular ROP!!

Anyone that can offer any insight and experiance that would be lovely!

Anyone using real time remedies, consults direct...Etc. Those are the 2 I seem to be more considering. Thanks

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#648129 - 02/12/08 06:45 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: watcher12]
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Just saw Scruf posted about doctors in Puerto Rico...I cannot even imagine going and handing that in!! Holy [censored], I cannot imagine the pharmacy just letting that go...
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#648217 - 02/12/08 08:59 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: watcher12]
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 Originally Posted By: watcher12

Come on Debbie, give us the dish...And any other DS reps on the Board!

I would like to know if you give refills on them?...I think taking a new out of state script in Every month is pushing it, but once every couple months, not so bad

Is the Dr. from the pan handle?
Would the same Dr. write out everytime?
Can someone be reached to verify the Script?
Is your Dr, working for other companies or is he/she exclusive to you?

Thanks for taking the time to answer them.



I agree with this one totally. If you got a scrip coming from a different state all the time or often it is possible you will start looking like a double dipper, doctor shopper etc....especially if you live in a state with PMP,which I think I do...Minnesota, anyone know? Is there a thread which shows what pharmacies have filled out of state scrips without giving people any smack? That would be a good thread to start. I was thinking of using Hy-Vee when I do my food shopping today. The place I got my scrip from said the only people that had trouble were the ones going to Walmart which seems odd but I am not going to take a chance.
Peace
Bobbi

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#648220 - 02/12/08 09:03 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: bobbi507]
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BTW I would also be interested in knowing if any mail order or online pharmacies would take a direct scrip? They would not know any more than a brick and mortar pharmacy whether or not u actually seen that doctor or not face to face. They would probably be less likely to care as well.
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#648259 - 02/12/08 10:08 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: bobbi507]
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Consults Direct requires that your doctor has previously prescribed norcotic pain meds. Just got cancelled because of it. I wouldn't be looking for an OCS if I had a compassionate doc. I have been looking for the past year and none to be found. I did sign up with NNCIP just in case they ever get a doc in my state.
Looks like a it's going to be a scramble with Ulta gone.
Here we go again.
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#648271 - 02/12/08 10:25 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: waitin]
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I think the DS service is great! The rx comes with 2 refills. Well, atleast they do from MEC. The doctor so far has been the same. I have had two reconsults and my first consult. So it seems the doctor is staying around. My records stated that I have used this med for several years. The doctor will not prescribe unless it is on your records. The doctor is located in my state - Florida; so I haven't had a problem. He is the doctor that everyone was talking about a few weeks ago - A.G.
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#648272 - 02/12/08 10:27 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: waitin]
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Waitin, I hate to say it but you probably are not going to find an OCS that prescribes meds without being previously prescribed. It seems they all require this now. Maybe you could get a small script somewhere, like urgent care. I feel bad for you, good luck!
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#648356 - 02/12/08 12:15 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: littlered363]
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Yes that's what Debbie suggested but I live in a rural area and it's hard to find treatment centers. I was prescribed pain meds years ago but those records were destroyed when the hospital went under water during hurricane Katrina. All my records were lost. My home is gone also and what do I have to look forward to with DDD at age 62? The DB forum has been a great help to me in the past year. Now I feel hopeless.
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#648656 - 02/12/08 05:38 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: waitin]
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I was trying to research the DS route, prices at my ROP are really getting up there. But, it seems that not many are posting about their experiance. Kina leads me to believe there is not many participating.

I have enquired to a few posters regarding a few sites and posted in some of the threads...In this case I think it is important to research the Dr. and credentials prior to providing your pharmacy your script.

I see that Chat is having a special. Looks like I am staying with my current ROP (PPC) or trying Chat for the price break...GOing to research them a little more now. Don't care who a regular ROP is using as the Dr, as I don't have to be there handing in the script.

Looks like the new face to face has come to my state and I will probably go that route soon. I have a nerve study being done and a new MRI. I am going to finish those tests, get the results and then try the face to face.

Thanks to those that did respond in these DS threads over the last few days. It truly is difficult to think about severing a relationship with a current provider when you know you will get your meds....Even though you may not be able to afford them...LOL

GOod Luck to everyone, it is getting tougher in this OCS world everyday. I just wish the prices were not sooo high, then I would not have to be wasting time shopping for a new prodvider.

Thanks again guys!! (and gals!)

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#648706 - 02/12/08 06:48 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: watcher12]
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Prices-High?
Compare some with the others.
Direct Scripts are by far the best value on this board.
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#648714 - 02/12/08 07:04 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: ConsultsDirect]
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Oh, I meant the ROP prices not you guys...SORRY!! LOL

My provider is increasing the price $20.00 almost monthly now and it was high to beging with.

Regular ROPs are pricing themselves out of business. Soon only the rich will be able to afford their service.

I will be trying DS very soon, I need to save some MONEY!!!

Thanks for posting

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#649372 - 02/13/08 07:04 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: watcher12]
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I am trying to research about direct scripts. Can someone give info on a service who does NOT use the doctor that several other services use (AG). The only reason I ask that is, if one doctor is writing so many scripts, someone is going to take notice which to me, equals, not good! I was with UWM, who just announced they are closing. I do appreciate any info as I am in need of pain control.
Thank you to all here that are willing to help.

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#649816 - 02/14/08 11:44 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: amysue]
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 Originally Posted By: amysue
I am trying to research about direct scripts. Can someone give info on a service who does NOT use the doctor that several other services use (AG). The only reason I ask that is, if one doctor is writing so many scripts, someone is going to take notice which to me, equals, not good! I was with UWM, who just announced they are closing. I do appreciate any info as I am in need of pain control.
Thank you to all here that are willing to help.



They are under new managment and I do not think they are closing anymore. UltraWeb that is. New owner is named Joe.
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#650063 - 02/14/08 04:33 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: Bryan72577]
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Oh, so is everything going to stay the same...doctors, pharmacies, etc? I am a bit confused now, which I will be honest, doesn't take much these days! I would be interested in more information, if UWM is indeed staying?
I have started looking into DS services, any info about that is appreciated also. Thank you.

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#650247 - 02/14/08 06:49 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: amysue]
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Not sure about the details but, yes they are staying. I would email Joe(new owner) for the info.
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#650249 - 02/14/08 06:50 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: amysue]
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I would recommend Consults Direct(Who I use) if you would like to go the DS route.
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#651361 - 02/16/08 05:13 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: Bryan72577]
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I saw a post and cannot reply to it (on the PMC thread), but it was about when controlled Rx' expire, which pertain to how long a person has to get the Rx filled for scheduled III and a schedule IV controlled med;

yes they expire 6 months from the original date they were written, however, with the Rx for a controlled substance you only have 30 days to get it filled from the date on the Rx. Schedule II's are different, usually they give you 7 days to get to the pharmacy for filling.

The 6 months means that if you do not put in for your refill until after 6 months on a schedule III or a schedule IV controlled medication, then the refills will become null and void.

Some states may vary in this so it is always best to check your Board of Pharmacy website out or just call a local pharmacy in your state and they can tel you how they handle these things. I am only stating what I know to be how it works in NY as an example.

I posted this here, because it was on another OCS that now does direct scripts and so I could not reply to that.
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#651477 - 02/16/08 11:13 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: Ruggie]
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 Originally Posted By: TSHP_Ruggie
I saw a post and cannot reply to it (on the PMC thread), but it was about when controlled Rx' expire, which pertain to how long a person has to get the Rx filled for scheduled III and a schedule IV controlled med;

yes they expire 6 months from the original date they were written, however, with the Rx for a controlled substance you only have 30 days to get it filled from the date on the Rx. Schedule II's are different, usually they give you 7 days to get to the pharmacy for filling.

The 6 months means that if you do not put in for your refill until after 6 months on a schedule III or a schedule IV controlled medication, then the refills will become null and void.

Some states may vary in this so it is always best to check your Board of Pharmacy website out or just call a local pharmacy in your state and they can tel you how they handle these things. I am only stating what I know to be how it works in NY as an example.

I posted this here, because it was on another OCS that now does direct scripts and so I could not reply to that.


Great point Ruggie, thanks for the great info as always =)
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#654487 - 02/21/08 10:43 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: Arcanix1109]
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Thank You for the Great Comments Arcanix1109


We appreciate them.
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#658478 - 02/27/08 05:31 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: MyEasyConsult]
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I forgot to mention, our scripts are for the original fill and two refills so a 90 day supply.

If you have any questions, please let us know.

Have a Great Night!
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#659931 - 03/01/08 12:44 AM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: tish50]
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 Originally Posted By: tish50
I think this is the future of telemedicine, i love direct scripts since I have insurance.


the bad part is the insurance companyd my lose alot of money insuring internet scips.if this happens they will either rufuse to honor them and eclude them on further contracts.

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#664507 - 03/08/08 04:17 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: Ruggie]
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Hey Ruggie. How have you been?

The problem gets even more difficult when in NY you can get a prescription with refills for Hydrocodone/APAP but you need a special New York State Narcotics prescription form for Xanax or any drug in that family (Xanax, Valium, Ativan, etc.). So even within the Schedule III family there are subtle but critical issues - at least in New York.

It is really complicated and different in every state.

Take Care,
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#667048 - 03/12/08 06:58 PM Re: Online Consultation Services that deliver scripts and not meds. DS. List of sites, Q&A, comments [Re: geodesy]
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Loc: 90 Days Supply
Bryan,
Thank you for all the information you posted on this thread.

We would also like to thank the 195+ posters who took the time and effort to post great things about us.
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