#771574 - 09/23/08 07:20 PM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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genethebean1
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I have a similar problem - going from a sporting and training lifestyle to hardly being able to walk. Often you can train round your problem areas; it really doesn't matter what parts of the body are being exercised as long as it gets you out of breath and is aerobic. Weight training is not great for losing weight unless very light weights are used and hundreds of reps are performed. One might as well use a machine.
Cutting calories can be used in conjunction, but it's not quite that simple as it's better to eat small amounts regularly that larger amounts with big gaps in between.
Cycling machines, steppers, rowers, skiing machines, fast walking and swimming are all good. If there's a specific bodypart letting you down, let us know or PM to see if it can be avoided.
For example, my feet and ankles are my main problem, so I should probably go swimming; of course I can't swim which is bloody typical.
So, if I got one of those arm thingies (don't know what they are called but they work like a stationary bike only you pedal with you arms) and use that, I could burn calories?
My main problem areas are low back (sacral area), hips and feet. I also am trying to get my shoulder healed up from a fall last January. I don't have much range of motion in it at this time. I am doing PT and I hope that will help - I really don't want surgery.
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#771833 - 09/24/08 07:37 AM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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nephro
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I have a similar problem - going from a sporting and training lifestyle to hardly being able to walk. Often you can train round your problem areas; it really doesn't matter what parts of the body are being exercised as long as it gets you out of breath and is aerobic. Weight training is not great for losing weight unless very light weights are used and hundreds of reps are performed. One might as well use a machine.
Cutting calories can be used in conjunction, but it's not quite that simple as it's better to eat small amounts regularly that larger amounts with big gaps in between.
Cycling machines, steppers, rowers, skiing machines, fast walking and swimming are all good. If there's a specific bodypart letting you down, let us know or PM to see if it can be avoided.
For example, my feet and ankles are my main problem, so I should probably go swimming; of course I can't swim which is bloody typical. So, if I got one of those arm thingies (don't know what they are called but they work like a stationary bike only you pedal with you arms) and use that, I could burn calories? My main problem areas are low back (sacral area), hips and feet. I also am trying to get my shoulder healed up from a fall last January. I don't have much range of motion in it at this time. I am doing PT and I hope that will help - I really don't want surgery.
Yes! Try one first in a shop so that it is comfortable for you to use. Absolutely anything that gets you out of breath will increase your metabolism.
Just cutting calories by missing meals won't necessarily do that, as your body's metabolism can slow down to compensate. So if you can nibble low-calorie stuff throughout the day and exercise to the point of being out of breath regularly, it can't really fail.
As usual you should see a doctor before commencing exercise programmes, etc.
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#774430 - 09/28/08 02:04 AM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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daddyd
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I have a similar problem - going from a sporting and training lifestyle to hardly being able to walk. Often you can train round your problem areas; it really doesn't matter what parts of the body are being exercised as long as it gets you out of breath and is aerobic. Weight training is not great for losing weight unless very light weights are used and hundreds of reps are performed. One might as well use a machine.
Cutting calories can be used in conjunction, but it's not quite that simple as it's better to eat small amounts regularly that larger amounts with big gaps in between.
Cycling machines, steppers, rowers, skiing machines, fast walking and swimming are all good. If there's a specific bodypart letting you down, let us know or PM to see if it can be avoided.
For example, my feet and ankles are my main problem, so I should probably go swimming; of course I can't swim which is bloody typical.
Yeah im in the same position, I used to do all over body building but developed a bone condition in my hips (avascular necrosis) which made training difficult and finally impossible when I could hardly walk even with my crutches, when it was at its worst, I had been told to try and lose as much weight as possible for obvious weight bearing reasons and before my bilateral core decompression operation. I turned to swimming and Cardio Circut training, as Nephro mentioned, I was using the bench press machine pushing like 5 -10 kgs (you would prob do nothing more thans 3 - 5 and doing 100 reps at a time, 2 or so minute break and then the same again, it gets the heart racing long before your muscles start to work, regular excersice does increase you metabolism anyway so stick it out.
You would need to let us know the affected area so that the most appropriate advice can be given.
Also consider buying a good meal replacment with low carbs, not protein only shake. Have a decent breakfast without a doubt, that wakes your bodies metabolism up, then spread a couple of small meals out through the day, and a meal replacement at night, you can swop the last two around if it fits in better with your home and work life but make sure not to eat anything after 6 at night, thats a no no. Lots of water, and remember that smoothies and the likes are sold as super healthy 1 of your 5 a day replacements, but check the sugar content and you'd be horrified. Check the Calories and sugar / carb contents on everything you buy, you'll be surprised at how wrong our perceptions are of what is good for weight loss and what is not.
Good luck, I had to loose muscle mass when I was at the height of my disease and also go from the kind of training I love to the kind that bores me to death. (except the swimming) and believe me losing muscle mass is not easy at all! but i still managed to drop around 20 kg's in 8 months. If I can anyone can, luckily Im slowly on the road to recovery and have been able to shift back to my old regime.
Decide which works best for you and then STICK to it, after 14 days it will become habit and not feel bad at all..
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#774434 - 09/28/08 02:14 AM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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daddyd
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I have a similar problem - going from a sporting and training lifestyle to hardly being able to walk. Often you can train round your problem areas; it really doesn't matter what parts of the body are being exercised as long as it gets you out of breath and is aerobic. Weight training is not great for losing weight unless very light weights are used and hundreds of reps are performed. One might as well use a machine.
Cutting calories can be used in conjunction, but it's not quite that simple as it's better to eat small amounts regularly that larger amounts with big gaps in between.
Cycling machines, steppers, rowers, skiing machines, fast walking and swimming are all good. If there's a specific bodypart letting you down, let us know or PM to see if it can be avoided.
For example, my feet and ankles are my main problem, so I should probably go swimming; of course I can't swim which is bloody typical. So, if I got one of those arm thingies (don't know what they are called but they work like a stationary bike only you pedal with you arms) and use that, I could burn calories? My main problem areas are low back (sacral area), hips and feet. I also am trying to get my shoulder healed up from a fall last January. I don't have much range of motion in it at this time. I am doing PT and I hope that will help - I really don't want surgery.
Sorry I didnt see this post, I would say to you try and do swimming only, lots of laps, ditch the water excercise classes, just get in and do laps, marathon style, slow but progressive, Take it really easy though, freestyle will put more strain on your shoulder, a very gently breaststroke would probably be better but either way, the water takes all the pressure off so the key is to take it easy, 3 times a week for 20 mins, proper eating and you'll get there no prob.
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#795529 - 10/31/08 01:11 PM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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jimmyleft
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I will second the idea of eating small meals.
If you can read the Ebook called burn the fat feed the muscle, its based around doing every thing, cardio, weights, etc its VERY good and really go's into details still worth reading even if you cant work out.
But a couple of things that I think is def worth doing.
Eat 4 meals a day every 3-4 hours maybe 300 cal per meal more for breakee say 400 cal start your day with the biggest meal and end with the smallist.
Eat slow cards i.e stuff like broccali,spinich,brussel sprauts. (my spelling sucks sorry).
alway eat a protain with every meal.
drink loads of water .
best time to exercise is first thing in the morning before eating then wait 1 hour before eating.
dont eat just before exercise give yourself at least a hour to process the food other wise you will be burning the food first them the fat after basically a waist of time (well not totaly but your body will burn the food first).
If you could to a swim in the mornings first thing and follow the rule of eating 4 small meals with slow cards, protain and healthy fats I'm pritty shore you will lose weight.
I dropped 25kg in 3 months doing this about 60 pounds or just over 3 stone I think. but I was working out hard at the gym but a good swim should work.
Also I really dont mind eating bland food so that helps.
Anyway all good idea's that have been posted. If you can get a copy of burn the fat feed the muscle you will have everything you ever needed to know about losing weight.
good luck.
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#802571 - 11/13/08 02:56 PM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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nephro
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Regarding 'problem areas', you cannot spot-reduce. It is impossible for a machine to induce weight loss from one area of the body. Of course, there are certain areas of the body which have a tendency to accumulate fat; this processes will be reversed with aerobic exercise.
Consider that machine called "Thigh Master" which hit the TV years ago. A springy sort of loop, you put it between your knees and repeatedly forced them together. This does not even work the thigh muscle; it works the groin. It was absolute nonsense.
The only machines that work are exercise bikes, ski simulators, rowing machines and so on, as long as you get out of breath.
The theory that doing sit-ups will burn fat from your abdomen is a myth. They will only tone the underlying muscle, which will actually get larger. Aerobic exercise will burn fat from your body in general.
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#802631 - 11/13/08 04:33 PM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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SallyCShells
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LOL, I've got one of those stupid thigh masters in my garage! Yeah, what a waste!
OK, teebee, gene and others... I can sure empathize with you all, as we know, it can hurt like heck to exercise when you have the chronic pain problems if you aren't careful or pick the wrong exercises. Sometimes you just can't do them at all. Basically if you are in too much pain, you shouldn't push it anyway or you will be in so much pain that you'll become so frustrated that you'll never want to do any exercise again.
I have the L5-S1 herniated disc, FMS and herniation in a disc in my neck too. So, I am limited and can't do a whole lot. Been there teebee7 on the size 8-12 - it feels like too much on my frame and I hurt worse when I get to be that size. Not that it's really that big, but on a smaller frame and being only 5'5 it seems to be and causes more pain at least for me.
I am a size 2 now and how I got there was by eating smaller meals - I do not deprive myself of anything or have any guilt over what I do eat. I eat smaller, more frequent meals but eat what I love, not like, love. Only eat when I am hungry, try not to eat after about 8 pm, but if I slip up sometimes, so what! I move on and don't beat myself up over it.
As far as exercise goes, still can't do much. I stretch as much as I can, sometimes it's just too painful for me, so I only do it when I feel up to it. I also walk, swim, and use an exercise bike. I use free weights - no more than 3 lbs. a piece to tone up. I love all these activities though, so try to pick low-impact activities that you love and can stick with. Went from a size 8/10 to a 2 in about 2 1/2 - 3 months doing it this way.
The stringent diet, exercising 5 days a week, till I hurt so much I cried, starving myself to death and beating myself up over everything I ate, didn't work. In fact, I lost nothing except my mind for awhile. I have maintained this weight and size for awhile and am happy because it's so easy to do it this way.
So, my advice is: Push the guilt aside and eat less, try to eat only when you are hungry and eat what you love, not like. Try not to eat too late at night. Exercise doing the activities you enjoy, not ones you hate or what someone else tells you will work. Exercise when you feel good enough to do it, you will find you feel better and better as time goes on. Your pain will diminish and your energy will increase. Most important thing I believe is your attitude - Keep positive! I know it sounds corny, but I've done it both ways and a positive attitude seems to work in your favor when losing weight, while negativity seems to go against you.
Good luck EVERYONE!
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#802889 - 11/14/08 07:32 AM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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teebee7
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Thanks for all the advice.
My problem is not eating too much...far from it. In fact, I may even be on the edge of not eating enough, i know it's just as bad.
I can't really walk much because of my drop foot. I fall way too often as it is just getting around on a day to day basis. I think my foot is moving as I walk but it isn't. And I can't feel it to know. Hell, I fall UP the stairs at my house on a regular basis.
I'd have to stare at my feet and walk like a snail to make that a form of exercise.
I need a cardio exercise I can do that doesn't rely on my feet. Swimming is out as I don't have a pool/can't afford a membership. No rowing or situps for me either.
I suppose a bicyle would be ok. But maybe better yet, an Elliptical machine or stair-climber.
I used to love to dance...but again, the whole foot thing is keeping me from that too.
I'll figure something out. 
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#802897 - 11/14/08 07:50 AM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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OldandWorn
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Reduce caloric intake, drink grapefruit juice, do a 2 day cleanse.. O&W, Could you elaborate more on the 2 day cleanse please? There are tons of sites that offer 'cleansing' products, but that scares me. Thanks. Tee
GNC, check it out. I just saw it there. That's all.
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#805792 - 11/20/08 12:44 PM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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teebee7
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Thanks Bum!
I went to their website, but I have to do a lot more research before I buy. They have a bunch of cleansing products to choose from.
Desicions...desicions... 
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#805840 - 11/20/08 03:14 PM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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nephro
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Thanks Bum! I went to their website, but I have to do a lot more research before I buy. They have a bunch of cleansing products to choose from. Desicions...desicions...
Ignore them all; they're garbage.
Elliptical trainers are good though. What I would say is not to buy online unless you have tried that model. I usually go to a shop to physically try something out, then buy it online if it's significantly cheaper. If there's not much in the price, it's usually better to buy it locally, in case something goes wrong.
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#807676 - 11/25/08 09:04 PM
Re: Losing Weight When You Can't Really Exercise
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genethebean1
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I totally forgot that I started this thread. Well, right now, I have to say NO MORE EXCUSES! I just had my cholestrerol checked for the first time in about two years (and I've gained about 35 lbs since the last check). I knew it was going to be up from the last time but I never would have thought it would be as high as it is - 340!! Last time it was checked I think it was about 220-240. MY hdl is 61 - which is better than the 45 it used to be. My triglycerides are 280. Time to get serious if I want to see my grandkids grow up.
Man, and it's my favorite time of year to cook! I guess I'll just have to find some new, healthier recipes.
I don't understand why it's so high. I don't eat fast food, I hardly ever eat fried foods. I cook with olive oil and eat (mostly) whole grains. I do have a sweet tooth but it's not like I am eating candy, pastries, cookies, ice cream, etc all day long and when I do eat this stuff I (usually) eat a small portion.
My doctor said if I don't get it down a fair amount in the next 3 months, she wants me to take medication - and I don't want to have to do that.
Any suggestion (besides the obvious - diet and exercise) for lowering cholesterol?
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