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#781127 - 10/08/08 01:55 PM Would anyone recommend a Shrink?
Strat789 Offline
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Hi All,

I am currently on Paxil for the past week+ and was taking Lexapro prior to that. I don't know about you but I feel just as depressed as before I took any medication. I sometimes wonder if it really does anything.

I find the only thing that helps for me is taking anti-anxiety medication to put me in a cool relaxed mood where nothing seems to bother me. I know I should not be abusing these benzo's for that reason but I find it is the only thing that has worked for me.

My doctor, work, and family all suggested going to see a Shrink it's just that ... 1) I work full time 2) I have no license (4 hour commute) 3) Shrinks only work from like 9-4 Monday-Thursday if that and hardly take new patients (I've tried before).

I just wanted to get your advice on the situation... for now I am going to keep self medicating.

Thanks,
Strat

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#782135 - 10/10/08 08:38 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
Swirl Offline
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Anti-depressants are hit and miss for everyone. We all react differently. I'm a strong believer in seeing a Shrink if it's needed. If you feel your depression is more than temporary or circumstances causing it seeing a Shrink is in your best interest. They are far more qualified to diagnose and treat you.
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#783117 - 10/11/08 10:33 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
phengirl1 Offline
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I see a shrink on a regular basis b/c I have been diagnosed with clinical depression. Mostly psychiatrist just like to check in with their patients just to make sure that they feel their medication is working for them; atleast that is how it usually works for me. I really have a postive relationship with my doctor and appreciate that he understands my diagnosis and is there to offer support. Seeing a psychiatrist is not meant to be a dreaded experience. They function as another support in treating a very treatable illness. That is it; no mystery. Don't short change yourself on the treatment you deserve. If you don;t mind me asking, why do you have such a long commute? Could you arrange to see a doctor that is close to your work and make an appointment right after work or during your lunch hour? There are probably clinics that have moe flexible hours. Ask your regular doctor.
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#783119 - 10/11/08 10:34 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
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I know of no good shrink. It isn't like on TV and therapy takes a long time.
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#783128 - 10/11/08 10:52 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: OldandWorn]
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Self-medicating when you really do not know what you are medicating is never a good idea.

On your question, I do recommend seeking therapy. Most people benefit from it regardless of the particular issue at hand. It takes a stronger person to ask for help than those who do not.

With anti-depressants, they usually take 2-6 weeks, some even longer, to begin seeing the full effects of the medications. Anti-depressants are not an immediate fast acting medication like Xanax or morphine. Most any doctor, as well as information that comes with the prescription, will state this fact.
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#783130 - 10/11/08 10:53 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: OldandWorn]
phengirl1 Offline
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I am sorry to hear that you have not had a postive experience with a "shrink". I am not on tv nor have I ever been but I have been fortunate to have had a postive relationship with my doctor, shrink or psychiatrist; however you comfortable describing them. Yes, when a person is dealing with any type of treatment especially one that may be related to a mood disorder, it does often take time to find an effective medication and receive therapy that assist in the process. Not all psychiatrists and therapists are good but then again neither are all general practitioners, emergency docs and so on. I don't think it is fair to condemn all psychaitrists. Dealing with any mental or physical illness is far from a perfect process and I am very grateful for the help I have received.

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#783132 - 10/11/08 10:56 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: phengirl1]
OldandWorn Offline
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Glad to hear it. I was never prescribed anything from one. It was just talking.
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#783176 - 10/12/08 04:32 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
Strat789 Offline
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Right now I just don't know what to do. I a lot of things have happened over these past years and apparently I have not been able to cope.

After my mother passed away I got addicted to oxycodone / oxycottin. I lost my license from that, embarassed my family, and I have been messing up at work.

I get perscribed xanax 60(1mg) twice a day as need, paxil (20mg once a day), and ambien (1omg nightly as needed). Part of my problem is that I'm addictced to abusing "abusable" drugs. I mean i'll through the 60 xanax in less than 2 weeks. Even with the pain killers i'd go overboard and spend100-200 a night just to have a goodtime.

I think I need some help or I may take too much \:o

-Strat

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#783177 - 10/12/08 04:48 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: phengirl1]
Strat789 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: phengirl1
If you don;t mind me asking, why do you have such a long commute?


As I stated I lost my license. . . . . . v (shortly after my mother passed away). It's 2 hours each way via train (4 hours total). I wake up at 5:50 am don't get hhom till 7:00pm


Edited by Strat789 (10/12/08 05:11 AM)

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#783266 - 10/12/08 11:01 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
phengirl1 Offline
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Well, I think because you recognize that you have been abusing your medications you have made a good start. Also you are reaching out on this board which is also a great beginning.

For a lot of reason including my struggles with a mood disorder, I have also been in your same boat. It comes from a desperation to feel some relief from either grief or depression, fear; you name it. Sometimes we are pre-desposed to addiction. There are a 1000 reasons why but the only person than can answer those questions is you. The most successful route to this, THAT I HAVE FOUND, b/c I can only speak for myself, is help from a PROFESSIONAL, like a doctor or therapist, and they can guide you from there. I realize you ahort on time, money and transportation, but you can attend an Narcotics anonymous or Alcoholics anonymous meeting for FREE. It only takes an hour or hour and a half and all you need to do is to attend with an open heart and mind. If it isn't for you, then pursue another route. THERE IS NO ONE ANSWER. For me, I have needed the whole enchilada at one time or another (psychiatrist, therapist, medication, support groups). WHATEVER IT TAKES to feel better THAT IS HEALTHY. You don't have to go through anything alone and you certainly are not by yourself in struggling with grief and depression and substance abuse. All it takes is the initial step away from what is not working to a possibility of a new way of coping that may seem scary at first but will feel tons better. As i said before, there is no one correct answer but there are a lot of options to go into a positive direction.

http://portaltools.na.org/portaltools/MeetingLoc/

http://www.aa.org/lang/en/subpage.cfm?page=28

http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/col/tenn/2005/05/12/find_a_therapist/



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#783269 - 10/12/08 11:13 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: OldandWorn]
Swirl Offline
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 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Glad to hear it. I was never prescribed anything from one. It was just talking.


Therapists and counselors can't prescribe medication. Only Psychs and their CNPs can. Most Psychs will recommend therapy as well as medication. I am one that sucks at therapy. I do need to try that route again though.
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#783304 - 10/12/08 12:20 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Swirl]
OldandWorn Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Swirl
 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Glad to hear it. I was never prescribed anything from one. It was just talking.


Therapists and counselors can't prescribe medication. Only Psychs and their CNPs can. Most Psychs will recommend therapy as well as medication. I am one that sucks at therapy. I do need to try that route again though.


Yes, of course. In some states you only need a MSW to be a therapist. Some school systems hire therapists that never got their full doctorates. Any non MD therapist is supposed to be supervised by an MD (in most jurisdictions). As we all know, you need to be an MD to script meds.

I just take my pills from Nurse Ratchett and try to post when I can.
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#783345 - 10/12/08 01:37 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: OldandWorn]
Swirl Offline
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 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
 Originally Posted By: Swirl
 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Glad to hear it. I was never prescribed anything from one. It was just talking.


Therapists and counselors can't prescribe medication. Only Psychs and their CNPs can. Most Psychs will recommend therapy as well as medication. I am one that sucks at therapy. I do need to try that route again though.


Yes, of course. In some states you only need a MSW to be a therapist. Some school systems hire therapists that never got their full doctorates. Any non MD therapist is supposed to be supervised by an MD (in most jurisdictions). As we all know, you need to be an MD to script meds.

I just take my pills from Nurse Ratchett and try to post when I can.


I'm in a Southern State and my Psych's Certified Nurse Practitioners can prescribe meds. I'm not sure if that is State to State, but they are allowed here. I'm not sure the difference between a CNP and an RN or LVN though. Other than they can write prescriptions.
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#783389 - 10/12/08 03:35 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: phengirl1]
Strat789 Offline
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 28
 Originally Posted By: phengirl1


Well, I think because you recognize that you have been abusing your medications you have made a good start. Also you are reaching out on this board which is also a great beginning.

For a lot of reason including my struggles with a mood disorder, I have also been in your same boat. It comes from a desperation to feel some relief from either grief or depression, fear; you name it. Sometimes we are pre-desposed to addiction. There are a 1000 reasons why but the only person than can answer those questions is you. The most successful route to this, THAT I HAVE FOUND, b/c I can only speak for myself, is help from a PROFESSIONAL, like a doctor or therapist, and they can guide you from there. I realize you ahort on time, money and transportation, but you can attend an Narcotics anonymous or Alcoholics anonymous meeting for FREE. It only takes an hour or hour and a half and all you need to do is to attend with an open heart and mind. If it isn't for you, then pursue another route. THERE IS NO ONE ANSWER. For me, I have needed the whole enchilada at one time or another (psychiatrist, therapist, medication, support groups). WHATEVER IT TAKES to feel better THAT IS HEALTHY. You don't have to go through anything alone and you certainly are not by yourself in struggling with grief and depression and substance abuse. All it takes is the initial step away from what is not working to a possibility of a new way of coping that may seem scary at first but will feel tons better. As i said before, there is no one correct answer but there are a lot of options to go into a positive direction.

http://portaltools.na.org/portaltools/MeetingLoc/

http://www.aa.org/lang/en/subpage.cfm?page=28

http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/col/tenn/2005/05/12/find_a_therapist/









I wanted to thank you for this post it made me think of things in a totally different way. I know I HAVE A PROBLEM@! What to do and where to go from there will be interesting.

Thanks,
Strat

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#783582 - 10/12/08 09:35 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
phengirl1 Offline
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Registered: 02/06/07
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Loc: bakerstreet


You are so welcome. Countless people have helped me during some very dark times and I don't know what I would have done w/o the extra support. Remember, you are worth it! Good Luck!


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#783589 - 10/12/08 09:52 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
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Hi Strat,, Iam so sorry you are having such a hard time right now.. I and(alot) of us can relate . My personal depression comes from chronic pain and having alot of medical issues,,(ms,bone problems).. along with losing my sister not long ago .. I personally think it can never hurt to talk to someone and vent your inner feeling . Its sometimes not east to talk to family and friends about depression and thats when a therapist,or other pros can help some people,Sometimes we all are taking care of our family and friends and forget that we ourselves need tending to ,because we all are very special ,,I really hope you can find the help you need soon Strat, and start to feel better,, take care sincerely Faith
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#783593 - 10/12/08 09:55 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: OldandWorn]
SoHoTribeca Offline

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Registered: 05/20/06
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 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
 Originally Posted By: Swirl
 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Glad to hear it. I was never prescribed anything from one. It was just talking.


Therapists and counselors can't prescribe medication. Only Psychs and their CNPs can. Most Psychs will recommend therapy as well as medication. I am one that sucks at therapy. I do need to try that route again though.


Yes, of course. In some states you only need a MSW to be a therapist. Some school systems hire therapists that never got their full doctorates. Any non MD therapist is supposed to be supervised by an MD (in most jurisdictions). As we all know, you need to be an MD to script meds. I just take my pills from Nurse Ratchett and try to post when I can.


Just to clarify, since this is my chosen and beloved field, no one with just an MSW can be a therapist, legally or ethically. Every state has a Board for licensing and even an LMSW cannot provide therapy, if you check general statutes licensure law in any state. They can provide case management. A psychotherapist requires many years of education and direct supervision, preferably by another LCSW or LISW, not an MD. Unless you're talking about licensed professional counselors, who can have a master's in any field with one year of direct supervision, and pass their Board's exam.

Did you know that no insurance company will pay a psychiatrist more than roughly $50 for providing therapy, while a licensed psychotherapist is allowed anywhere from $100-$150 in private insurances. For the past couple decades, there's been a vast difference in the specialties of a psychiatrist, PhD and LCSW.

P.S. - NO ONE IS A BAD PATIENT, it's the job of the therapist to accomodate the needs of the patient, or be direct about the "resistance" that the patient places in the way of getting to the problems they come in seeking help with. Please don't ever think you were or are a bad patient, unless you don't show up. Mea culpa, too much information.
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#783595 - 10/12/08 10:02 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Strat789]
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Strat, it takes tremendous courage to admit a license was lost for misuse of drugs. I'm sorry you went through that, but I've treated a few nurses who lost their licenses, forging scripts is not very hard when you work directly with them for so long, (I'm not assuming that's what happened), but in the several, they were women, I've seen over time, the underlying issues were more important than losing their licenses, and that was a key issue for them to internalize. No one feels good about working so hard for a license, and losing it especially when you know you didn't harm a patient. But please don't give up on self help tools, finding a down to earth counselor, whether it's mental health or pastoral, besides your ego and drug dependence, they're are spiritual losses too. You know? A connection to a higher power that most of us have naturally as kids or at some point in our lives, but it's somehow lost. PM me or keep in touch if you wish. I do feel for you very much.
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#783709 - 10/13/08 08:39 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: SoHoTribeca]
Swirl Offline
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 Originally Posted By: SoHoTribeca
 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
 Originally Posted By: Swirl
 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Glad to hear it. I was never prescribed anything from one. It was just talking.


Therapists and counselors can't prescribe medication. Only Psychs and their CNPs can. Most Psychs will recommend therapy as well as medication. I am one that sucks at therapy. I do need to try that route again though.


Yes, of course. In some states you only need a MSW to be a therapist. Some school systems hire therapists that never got their full doctorates. Any non MD therapist is supposed to be supervised by an MD (in most jurisdictions). As we all know, you need to be an MD to script meds. I just take my pills from Nurse Ratchett and try to post when I can.


Just to clarify, since this is my chosen and beloved field, no one with just an MSW can be a therapist, legally or ethically. Every state has a Board for licensing and even an LMSW cannot provide therapy, if you check general statutes licensure law in any state. They can provide case management. A psychotherapist requires many years of education and direct supervision, preferably by another LCSW or LISW, not an MD. Unless you're talking about licensed professional counselors, who can have a master's in any field with one year of direct supervision, and pass their Board's exam.

Did you know that no insurance company will pay a psychiatrist more than roughly $50 for providing therapy, while a licensed psychotherapist is allowed anywhere from $100-$150 in private insurances. For the past couple decades, there's been a vast difference in the specialties of a psychiatrist, PhD and LCSW.

P.S. - NO ONE IS A BAD PATIENT, it's the job of the therapist to accomodate the needs of the patient, or be direct about the "resistance" that the patient places in the way of getting to the problems they come in seeking help with. Please don't ever think you were or are a bad patient, unless you don't show up. Mea culpa, too much information.


I don't want to hijack the OP post. I have a question since this is your field. What type of Therapist, Psychologist would you recommend? Is a Psychotherapist the same as a Pyschologist? I don't want just some run of the mill half a-- therapist for lack of better term.
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#783711 - 10/13/08 08:41 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Swirl]
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Strat,

I want to second what SoHoTribeca said in regard to keeping in touch. Please do keep us posted what you decide to do. Most importantly take care of you. Best of luck and sending positive thoughts your way.

Swirl
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#783754 - 10/13/08 10:08 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Swirl]
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I see a shrink when I have insurance and can afford it. That would be the right Doctor to script you Xanax and other Benzos. Sleep pills and other mental enhancing drugs.

I definitely see no harm or foul in seeing a shrink, I mean what can really go wrong in visiting one. On the other hand, a person can find great help in this type of medicine.

Worse come to worst, you don't have to follow thru with anything prescribed by the Doctor or follow any of their advice.

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#783775 - 10/13/08 10:32 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Oxy80]
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I personally think that its mostly an art than science
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#783895 - 10/13/08 01:20 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: dawn147]
SoHoTribeca Offline

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Girl, you putting me out to pasture, batting 1000 today. It is definitely an art rather than science, but just like art, there's experiential significance in whether certain methods work or not in each growing therapist's career. I was fortunate to choose every class and most professors through six years, university and then grad school, and I ate and digested every word I heard. I was also older by at least ten years than your average grad student, with levels of hard knocks that pay off.

You know, you can either become bitter with this life or you can choose to know and use why this happened, that happened, and level out the playing field within yourself.
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#783904 - 10/13/08 01:35 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Swirl]
SoHoTribeca Offline

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Registered: 05/20/06
Posts: 1656
 Originally Posted By: Swirl
I don't want to hijack the OP post. I have a question since this is your field. What type of Therapist, Psychologist would you recommend? Is a Psychotherapist the same as a Pyschologist? I don't want just some run of the mill half a-- therapist for lack of better term.



No, even psychologists have different courses of study, the only two types trained in therapy are Clinical Psychologists and PsyD's. Please bear in mind that depending on the service, an insurance company will pay for the specific type of provider giving a particular service. For instance, if you're child was to be tested for ADHD, (which schools are funded to provide, you have to fight with them), but if you decided to go privately, only a Clinical or EdD psychologist could provide that service, although in rural places, an MA with supervision might, probably not in a private practice though.

There's your insurance to consider, who is paneled with your insurance, so you only have a co-pay. Then there's either seek and find, my favorite, or talk to anyone you feel comfortable with if they know anybody personally who felt like they were helped by a certain therapist.

Are you totally confused yet? I don't have a good answer to your question, because people find a sense of closeness and comfort with a psychiatrist who is willing to sit more than 15 minutes with a patient, or a clinical psychologist, or the legitimate therapists licensed in your particular state. It can go by recommendation or going in for two-three visits with someone and expressing what you expect and need and hearing their responses to you. Use your gut too, some people can "feel" if it's a good match or not. Let me know how it turns out or PM.
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#784386 - 10/14/08 10:27 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: phengirl1]
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If you go to a shrink you don't like, move on. I've had to do it a few times. When dealing with things like this, you want someone you can rely on and trust. I'm loving my psych and my therapist right now. I'm in a much better place because of them. I give it a thumbs up. \:\)
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#795913 - 11/01/08 12:54 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Oxy80]
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Oxy 80,
I totally agree with your post. I see a shrink to get a uninterrupted flow of Schedule II meds (Dexedrine Spansule 15 mg. and Adderall 10 mg. tablets) for the last 14 years for my Attention Deficet Disorder. I also use my 15 minute
"med check" time allotment to get the needed hypnotics/benzo's (as I have found IMHO that General Family M.D's are not going to prescribe a C-II med for you...on a steady basis, It used to be different in the 1970's, but not anymore for me, even with benzo's/Ambien C-4's, I find my Primary M.D. grimaces when I ask for a controlled substance, even when I used to get one, they would cut me off after a couple of visits, or refer me out to a Neurologist or a Psychiatrist. I don't have "good insurance" anymore, thus I now avoid "talking therapists", but when I was married to "Nurse Ratchett" for 12 years, I assure you (Old & Worn) as well as Oxy 80, I used up like over 200 hours of 50 minute "talking therapy' mostly to vent all of my frustrations from my controlling wife/nurse
"Ratchett", and I did gain a lot of "insight" about Dysfunctional Family Systems/Dialectical Behavior Therapy,
Co-Dependency, Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy, Terrance Gorski's Relapse Prevention Therapy, and even the free flowing "Carl Rogers" laid-back therapy. I learned a lot of
doctor talk/psycho mumbo jumbo (at mostly the insurance companies expense)....but now I am grateful to just to live with my co-morbid DSM-IV Diagnosis's and pay a modest fee of
$65.00 every 8 weeks to walk out the door with five (5) scripts for psychtropic meds. (some of which are just not available from any IOP's). Looking back, I did pay a price while married to Nurse Ratchett, as, I became almost "guru dependant" on MSW's, Chemical Dependency Psychologists, Relapse Prevention Psychologists, and even Ph.D psychologists to vent at during the 12 yrs of my troubled marriage. I now have my own library of over one hundred self help books from John Bradshaw to Alice Miller, to David Burns, to Viktor Frankl, to M Scott Peck, to life enrichment guru's Tony Robbins, Est founder Werner Erhard,
Lifespring founder John Handley, Brian Tracy "Maximum Achievement Guru", Zig Ziglar, and many videotaped seminars of Nick Hall Ph.D , and other "transformational weekend" large hotel seminars by former Estee's with their "Landmark Forum" Basic & Advanced programs. finally my own degree from Univ of NY (B.S. Psychology) and my Martindale & PDR's
to seek the right prescription cocktail with my new age guru's & all the inner child ACOA workshops to finally seek a little peace of mind with a "better life through chemistry" and my attempt to apply all of the A to Z pop psychology to the intense confrontive "Bradshaw" seminars & books to ease my dis-ease in our dysfunctional world. Without my relationship with my Shrink, I would really be up the creek, as C-II stimulants (amphetamines) are just to hard to get with pharmacies on this forum. I like to get back up benzo's & some back up pain analgesics when my back
and feet (planters facia) flareup on occasion as years of fast cars, sex & rock n roll have taken its toll on my aging body. But not all "shrinks" are god sends...I have had to switch several times to get to "right one I could build a relationship with, in my best interests". Sorry for the long-winded post....its time to take my "downers" and retreat to the master bedroom for some sleep & to escape my lecturing. Good night to all...............

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#795982 - 11/01/08 06:12 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Ludes_Vet]
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Hey Oxy80, you might want to be a little clearer here, so you won't confuse people.

I don't know about most people, but when I see somebody write "shrink" I assume it's a psychologist, but I can see from your post, that you're going to a psychiatrist.

A psychologist/therapist is someone who studied psychology for 4-6 years, and tries to help you with your issues by talking about them, and/or teaches you different tools to make you handle your problems better.
That's usually who people call a "shrink".

A Psychiatrist is a doctor in medicine, who has specialized in mental health. Unlike psychologists, they can prescribe medicine for you. (Allthough most psychologist know a great deal about psych-drugs, and can make your doctor script them)
Some psychiatrists use a great deal of talk-therapy and are reluctant to prescribe meds, while other are the exact opposite.

Now which one should you choose? That of course depends on whether you want to get rid of your problem, or if you just want an uninterrupted flow of psychdrugs, and benzos.
In general, if you suffer from a mild to moderate depression, or have mild to moderate anxiety issues, a psychologist would be the best choice. If you suffer from more serious issues like Schizophrenia, or psychosis, then a psychiatrist is the go to guy. Why? Because studies have shown, that for many types of depression and anxiety issues, cognitive therapy, which is what a psychologist uses, is the best and most effective cure. That doesn't mean that a psychiatrist won't do therapy as well, but they're more likely to rely mostly on meds, and do a quick 20 minute consultation.

When it comes to therapy, there are different schools, or "kinds" of therapy. Psycho-analysis or cognitive therapy are two of the best known and most widely used. Especially cognitive therapy has been proven to help on anxiety as well as depression.

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#795985 - 11/01/08 06:25 AM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: whatsaywhat]
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I see both a Psychiatrist which I call a shrink and a psychologist which I call a therapist. To be honest, I do that because of spelling issues I have, I'm a terrible speller. Sorry if I've confused anyone.
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#796331 - 11/01/08 08:20 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: Oxy80]
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I've never really understood the need of having to see a therapist for "talk therapy". Something about the idea of talking to a total stranger about your life problems and revealing your deepest emotions sounds very awkward. Yes, it has be proven to sometimes help with depression - but at what level?

They can't prescribe pills and their method of conversation might or might not be of any help - it's almost like a gamble of your time and money going to one because you'll never know if they really helped. Most therapist (if not all) will refer you out to a psychiatrist anyway. So, if you want to talk about being unhappy, angery, ect. why not just see a real doctor to begin with?


Edited by PinkDiva (11/01/08 08:35 PM)
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#796346 - 11/01/08 08:39 PM Re: Would anyone recommend a Shrink? [Re: PinkDiva]
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Yep, my Girl friend went to one and he had a BIG painting of him self, as a child......that looked like blue boy....same outfit ........yikes
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